Weeping Yurei

So I have been theory crafting in the lead up to the release of Hemlock Vale, and no matter how I look at it, this is a very soft weakness. Like all weaknesses, timing is everything and this can sucker punch you at the end of the first upkeep. But Kohaku has so many tools available to deal with this, that its kinda silly. So without seeing everything in the box we already have:

Spectral Razor (0). An absolute Mystic standby. This wins against anything except the autofail on standard even in The Forgotten Age. If you already have curses in the bag, you still perform the test anyway, so the second worst case scenario is its 2 action, 1 card, 2 resources, and 2 horror. Pretty standard expectations for sig weaknesses Stats: ---2 actions (1 for the engage, because it is aloof. [I haven't been able to confirm if there is a ruling for myself that this lets you engage an aloof enemy. Rules as written you cannot, and the event is already powerful. But if you do play it as engaging an aloof enemy, cool. 1 less action.]) (Don't come at me. The wording on this card annoys me) ---1 card ---2 resources ---A base 7 to 2 test.

Manipulate Destiny (2). This needs experience so probably not your scenario 1 method. But if you're leaning hard into curse and have Favor of the Moon or your incredibly amazing signature in play, you're all set. This spell (Arcane Initiate anyone?) is not a test notably, and so ignores the specific wording on the Yurei that specifies during a skill test. For my money, A way to kill something that is aloof without engaging, and no test? Love. It. Stats: ---1 action ---1 card ---1 resource ---No engage required ---Testless

Drain Essence (0). A Hemlock card. A parley test at base 4 to 2, that does not require engagement, and can heal you. While you need a way to boost by 2 or 3 (hello Cat Mask/Holy Rosary/David Renfield), this is easily done. This is a test, so there is some risk, but the upshot is that you heal yourself by 2, and don't need to engage. It's all gravy. I'll take those odds. And depending on how much parley support we see in HV, running Fine Clothes, because you want to run Power Word on Kohaku and maybe another couple cards you will have access too, can turn this into an all but guaranteed success, with a potential price. Stats: ---1 action ---1 card ---2 resources ---Base 4-2 test, requires boosting or Fine Clothes ---No engage required ---It heals you assuming you have damage

Occult Lexicon/Blood-Rite (0). A classic standby for seekers normally, but because of past design choices, Kohaku happens to get one of the best cards in the game, albeit in a very competitive slot for him. When you don't need it, this does somewhat act as deck filtering, because you can always play the event and not discard cards, so you net draw cards, or you can discard duplicates to gain resources. Lots of flexibility, low downside, except that it's a one of in your deck, so reliably drawing it is awkward. minimal downside. Pretty comparable to Manipulate Destiny. I would personally prefer to upgrade out of Occult Lexicon, but your deck, your choice. Stats: ---2 action (1 to play the lexicon, 1 to play a Blood-Rite) ---1 card (technically) ---2 resources ---Testless ---No engage required

Gaze of Ourash (2). Overkill. Great if Weeping Yurei spawned at the same time as another enemy from the encounter deck. But since you'd rather be as efficient as possible and not rely on damage events, this feels like too big a chance to miss, even with your signature or favor of the moon. I feel like you could potentially have a higher ceiling with this, so it depends on the setup. If you were playing main fighter, I could see this having a place generally just as an AoE attack. But solo? Manipulate Destiny saves 1 resource and only uses 1 trigger of something to guarantee the hit. Stats: ---1 action ---1 card ---2 resources ---Testless ---No engage required

LATER EDIT: So I completely forgot about Nepthys and was previously focusing on the Cursed side. But payoff for going more heavily on the blessed side is similar to ||Zoey and Sister Mary, in that Nepthys if set up, can actionlessly and testlessly kill the Weeping Yurei. All for doing what you already want to do. So actually, if you're going more of a bless fighter, just take Nepthys, no brainer. Easy win; what weakness?

Honorable mentions.

Ofuda (0). Initial impressions are for me lukewarm on this because it feels like scenario tech. But for Kohaku who has an inbuilt reliable way of revealing blesses, this does remove elusive and aloof as keywords. This doesn't kill Weeping Yurei, but it does help your Armageddon kill it. But you could just take the engage action. This costs you 2 resources and a card. I'm not strictly recommending it, I'm just saying you can use it.

Enchanted Bow (2). Yes I'm serious. But no, its not that good. If for some reason you're using this as your main weapon, i mean, you can run away, attack it, and ignore aloof, with no risk of the attack trigger, because the trigger only cares at it's location. I think this is inefficient for Kohaku, but it is worth pointing out because it solves 2 problems. But it is slot expensive taking up some slots you'd much rather use for something else. There's also no synergy with blurse. I'm not even listing the stats. 3 slots. thats the cost.

Final Impressions. Kohaku has many tools even before seeing the entire Hemlock Vale box. Any of Spectral Razor, Drain Essence, Manipulate Destiny or even the Occult Lexicon I could easily see as staples for Kohaku whether he is main fighter, cluever, or flex. For my money the best path for the lowest risk is Manipulate Destiny. This costs 2 xp, but it's searchable, the cheapest option, and its pretty reliable to trigger if you already do curses, even if you haven't already played a Favor of the Moon, or your signature yet. And even if you aren't killing the Yurei, depending on the timing... just ignore it and run? It's really not terribly threatening. Also, if you need to kill a Renfield or an Initiate, maybe just take the test?

Agreed, this is one of the softest weaknesses. More often than not, you can even leave it completely unchecked. It is no Cultist, so safe from a "Mysterious Chanting", and an Aloof enemy, you can simply lock on a location, you don't want to make tests with "Virescent Rot", either embedded in a test from another location, where it can't attack, or just on the location itself, as it doesn't attack, if you don't reveal tokens for a skill test. Of course, there is value in retreaving your Virescent Rot for other enemies, but if that's not the case, it can stay on the Yurei for the whole game. And sometimes, depending on the scenario and how late you draw it, it might be even worth to ignore it as a whole and just move away, letting it follow you. Unlike any other enemy in the game, Aloof is rather advantagiouse for the players in this case, imho. — Susumu · 366
If you're continually moving, Scarlet Rot also works as it'll die before it ever reaches you. I think it's depends on the scenario. Save Virescent Rot if there's an annoying Hunter in the game you want to lock down. If you're dealing with low health cultists, Scarlet Rot them and use Virescent Rot on Yurei. — MindControlMouse · 42
In the Thick of It

This is pretty much an auto-include for a Vincent Lee Runic Axe build. Why? Because you actually want physical trauma on him.

First, Vincent starts out with an insane 9 health, so dropping down to 7 doesn't put him much at risk. Second, you must take Glory on the Axe in order to build it fully out. The heal option on Glory can only be used on Vincent. However, you are almost certainly taking Wolverine, er... Jessica Hyde in a fighter build. And when Wounded Bystander pops up, you MUST assign damage to him first. This means unless it's direct, Vincent just doesn't take much damage. Too many human shields around him! So having 2 physical trauma at the start means at least the Glory heal option has a target. Of course, you can always take the horror heal or card draw option, but this allows him to get On the Mend as well.

Plus having 3 xp at the start of the campaign isn't too shabby either...

I'd say it's just an autoinclude for Vincent period, you don't need the Axe for ITTOI to be insane in the guy who wants damage to heal. — Soul_Turtle · 460
Talisman of Protection

Great card for the upcoming Hank. Since he gets "defeated" and becomes resolute at 5 damage / horror, you could play this to easily extend his life mid-scenario. Also works with your fellow gators' damage/horror since that can also be assigned to Hank. The talisman then becomes useful again if he's getting close to a true defeat.

Bloodw4ke · 80
Call for Backup

If I played this card while engaged does it provoke an aoo? What if I use it to deal 1 damage and kill the enemy? What if you play this card, use it to move to a location and discover a clue, but you get engaged by an enemy as soon as you move to the new location? I'm assuming that just the playing of the card itself will provoke an aoo.

Yes, it will provoke an AoO. But not, if you mover into a location by th rogue ability and engage it, only, if you are already engaged while initiating the play sequence. Besides, there are better places to ask rules questions, like BGG or Discord. — Susumu · 366
Take Heart

How good is Take Heart in 2024? Does it still deserve to be a staple or is it another casualty of the ever-expanding card pool?

Imagine a hypothetical 0-cost event that draws 2 cards and gains 2 resources. That would compare favorably to Emergency Cache (2), and be a solid card at 2 XP or close to an auto-include at 0 XP. So how does the real Take Heart compare to this hypothetical event?

Cons:

  • To "play" it as an action you need an available test you can fail, most reliably an investigation.
  • You suffer the effects of a failed test, such as Haunted abilities or random chaos token effects.
  • Sometimes a +1, , or will accidentally succeed the test and waste the card entirely.

Pros:

So where does that leave us overall?

If you can reliably fail investigations without horrible consequences, Take Heart is still a very strong card. Baseline, this means an investigator with 2 or less. Any higher and you're having to wait around for higher-shroud locations or roll the dice on dodging 0 tokens. But even with 0-2, any of the following could make it much worse:

  • A teammate going into tokens.
  • Playing The Circle Undone campaign (just don't do it).
  • Particularly punishing failure effects on , , or . This is the hardest one to plan around, but even in the worse cases you're usually only looking at 10-20% chances of meaningful consequence, and if it's a forced test you're not increasing your risk at all.

So those are the factors that could make Take Heart worse. What factors make it better?

  • While low is the most reliable way to use it, low defensive stats increase the odds of getting to freeroll it off a treachery. This makes it marginally better for someone with low like Silas Marsh, and much better for someone with low stats across the board like Charlie Kane or Carson Sinclair.
  • It's best when soak is your main way to survive troublesome treacheries, compared to passing tests or canceling the cards.
  • If you're building around other fail-matters or difficulty increases, it goes from good to amazing.

There are places where Take Heart is obviously great, but consider it the next time you find yourself playing Agnes Baker or "Ashcan" Pete! Maybe you can even find space for it in Zoey Samaras or Daniela Reyes. And Hank Samson is just around the corner...

obsidiandice · 102
Hi! I know this is a little late, but I'm about to play Preston Fairmont in The Circle Undone (bought the campaign and have left it sealed until I play it with my friends, so I'm going in totally blind) - is there a spoiler-free way as to why this is really bad in that Campaign? Just really damaging "On fail" Symbols? — Marymatician · 114
Hi, me from two months ago! The reason OP warns against The Circle Undone is because the core mechanic of the campaign punishes failure on investigation tests, similar to Retaliate. However, Take Heart is still an amazing card in your deck, and has become one of your favourite cards overall, an incredibly strong pick. — Marymatician · 114